, not a lot of really inspirational leaders except number one, barack obama. there were only six women on it. it felt vechl like an old school interpretation of what power is. i'm not even sure -- i don't object to who they put on. i just found it sort of depressing that these are the people that control the levers of power. >> is that a statement on the world today? >> i think it is a statement on the world as it exists today, although i think it's changing. i would bet that in 20 years even the list will look a lot different because we are democratized the levers the power. that's my hope. i find it depressing right now, though. >> hopefully more activists on the list, but we'll see. straight ahead, forget the fiscal cliff for a second. how do we get america's economy growing again? mean a man with a plan next in the guest spot. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male an